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Your Morning Dump… Where Charles Barkley Thinks the Celtics are Stuck in No Man’s Land

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Charles Barkley said Friday that the Boston Celtics are a “middle of the road team in no man’s land.” Kevin O’Connor joined Greg Dickerson on Sports Tonight and explained just how foolish of a statement that is.

CSNNE

Kevin O’Connor, who contributes regularly to, well, a Celtics-themed blog that isn’t this one, as well as CSN, used a line of reasoning he’s presented before, which is the combination of high win totals and high draft picks.

There’s a lot of sense to that. But there’s an aspect that I think Kevin overlooks:

Front office acumen. The Celtics had that high draft pick, plus the chance at one or two more top ten picks because of Danny Ainge’s ability make good trades.

While the Celtics did catch some lucky breaks with how the Nets blew up, it’s also fair to say that a team that was willing to trade that much of its future in order to win now, yet had already hired a guy with zero head coaching experience, was not destined for prolonged greatness.

As Branch Rickey said, “luck is the residue of design.” The Celtics likely knew that the Nets picks would become increasingly valuable as time went on, knowing the Nets’ salary situation and the age of the players they were going to make their run with.

There was also the sequence of trades that started off with Tyler Zeller coming over from Cleveland along with a pick that was flipped to Phoenix for Isaiah Thomas.

And the Jae Crowder + first round pick for Rondo trade.

The Celtics also haven’t overpaid for mediocre free agents in order to ‘make a splash’, nor are they likely to:

Page 2: Where just say “no” to JR Smith

Boston has an obvious need for shooting, and everyone in the organization has been looking for more impact talent. The move would weaken a primary Eastern Conference rival. The Celtics wouldn’t mortgage any of their future flexibility with a short-term deal. And exec Danny Ainge would gain a golfing buddy.

ESPN Boston

Yes, Boston needs shooting, yes, this is an opportunity to weaken the Cavs. But going with that logic is one of the reasons why the Bucks signed Greg Monroe last year. And look how well that worked out.

J.R. Smith was a much better shooter last year, but the salary he’s looking for, the obvious drawbacks he brings, and the fact that the Celtics are not looking to get a little better combine to argue against signing Smith.

If signing Smith were a priority, it would have been accomplished by now; the Celtics front office has a well established record of moving quickly and silently on these things.

There are sound basketball reasons for looking at Smith as a marginal improvement over a short one-two year window, but the money required to obtain that improvement and the extent to which Smith would slow the development of Brown argue strongly against paying $15,000,000+ to get a one-dimensional player.

And then there’s this:

Page 3: Boston’s just not that into Okafor

In other words, Ainge is not likely to be offering much, and the 76ers are probably smart from holding off on a deal. They need to clear some space on their front line, but giving up Okafor for nothing would essentially be throwing an entire season of semi-intentional losing down the drain, which would probably feel pretty devastating to an already beaten-down fan base. That would not be a good look.

Masslive

See, a mediocre team with mediocre management and no center would be going after Okafor. Granted the Celtics have signed Al Horford, but they had ample opportunity to trade for Okafor before that point. And they didn’t.

It’s not upcoming drafts that have me convinced the Celtics aren’t stuck in the middle, it’s the acumen that has put them in position to get good picks in upcoming drafts, and which has prevented them from overpaying or sending out too much talent in a trade to add players that might land them one or two more wins.

I said yesterday that the Celtics, if they’re interested in Okafor at all, it’s as a 2nd unit player with enough potential to take a gamble on. And at that valuation, they’re not going to offer Philly much more than a late first rounder and/or a 2nd unit rotation player (think, say, Jerebko + the C’s 2018 pick).

Finally, let’s talk about the last bit in the snippet above:

giving up Okafor for nothing would essentially be throwing an entire season of semi-intentional losing down the drain

Frankly, the Sixers have no use for Okafor, due to their own inept drafting before that pick, therefore they’ve already thrown an entire season of losing down the drain. They just haven’t made it official yet. And, again, that’s one of the reasons why competent front offices are so danged important in a league where, perhaps, too much credit for success is focused on on-court talent.

The Sixers set fire to their last four seasons. They campaigned with barely concealed contempt for their fans, their coaching staff, their players, and the rest of the league. They had exactly one strategy for getting better, and look what they did with it: They drafted three consecutive centers and now they have too many. They had only one opportunity, every year, to get better, and they made a royal mess of it.

Page 4: Where the dancing bear gets it

Yabusele knows that if he wants to find a permanent spot with the Celtics, though, the work is just beginning. He would like to improve his ballhandling and conditioning, in addition to refining basic skills such as shooting and defense. He was told by the Shanghai Sharks that the team has an elite strength and conditioning program that is led by a former Houston Rockets staff member from Yao Ming’s time there, so the belief is he will be in good hands.

“The NBA will be my dream come true,” he said, “so I can’t just lay down or be slow or lazy. I just give everything on the court.”

Boston Globe

Now, of course, Yabusele might just be saying things that he knows people want to here, but he showed a marked improvement over a very brief run in the Summer Leagues. That at least suggests that on that level, he was willing to put in the effort required to get better.

The kid’s young, but he’s got, as they say, ‘the right tools’. If he genuinely has a work ethic to match, it isn’t hard to imagine him developing into an NBA rotation player.

Page 5: Where no, the All Star Game is not coming to Boston

Speaker of the House Robert DeLeo said he’s reached out to the Celtics about asking the NBA to bring the game to the Hub. Mayor Martin J. Walsh enthusiastically backed the idea, saying that the state’s recent passage of a bill that bans discrimination against transgender people, including in bathrooms, makes it a strong counterpoint to Charlotte.

“I’d love for it to come to Boston. It would be a great story,” Walsh told the Herald. “If you want to send a message, that’ll be a strong message to send right here in Boston.”

DeLeo said he approached the Celtics about making a formal written request to the NBA for the game, but the Garden is booked for the weekend of Feb. 19, when the game is scheduled to be held, according to TD Banknorth Garden officials.

Boston Herald

(insert snide remark about public officials not having a clue how things work)

The Globe’s Adam Himmelsbach adds this wry observation:

With Boston’s doomed 2024 Olympic bid and the cancellation of a scheduled IndyCar Series race in September, there is a lingering sense that the city cannot host fun things, and the fact that the NBA All-Star Game has not been held in Boston in 52 years does not exactly dispel that notion.

 

The rest of the links

CSNNE: Carroll: Crowder doesn’t understand what it takes to win in playoffs

Boston Globe: In wooing of Durant, Celtics spilled some secrets

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  • Luke Walton

    Everyone’s definition is a little different. It’s hard to argue with him, I guess. The difference between not making the playoffs and losing in the first round is very little. Still, things change, and we are very close. You don’t beat Lebron James with Al Horford. So let’s see what happens from now until the trade deadline.

    • Richard Jensen

      Again, Charles is implying that the Celtics are *stuck*. His words. Stuck. The Celtics aren’t *stuck*. They have flexibility and freedom to get better. Teams that are stuck are, say, last year’s Nets or the Bucks. Those are teams that have sacrificed flexibility without putting themselves into position to win titles, and who have to take major steps backwards to get unstuck.

      • swissflix

        Yep. Bucks got stuck because they signed Monroe. Which would have happened to us as well had we done that. Or overpaid Tobias Harris. Patience is a virtue and Danny seems to have it.

  • Curt Hays

    I tend to agree with Sir Charles. How can you say he’s wrong and then say we don’t want JR Smith because we aren’t trying to get a little better? We are trying to get WAY better because we aren’t at championship level. Chuck is right.

    • Richard Jensen

      it’s the idea that the Celtics are *stuck*. They aren’t *stuck*. Teams get *stuck* when they sacrifice flexibility to make marginal improvements.

      • Curt Hays

        In that case, Chuck is wrong and not paying attention, but I’m not saying he’s a loser.

        I probably could’ve understood your point better if I’d read more closely. The ads make it so tough to read on my phone that I don’t reread much.

  • art

    Well, a little luck and a franchise player with a top draft pick and I disagree with Charles. Charles is still a litter bitter about all the beatings he took from the Green during his playing days. He’s no fan of the Boston Celtics no matter what.

  • Mike C

    I’d rather be lottery bound than see JR Smith play in Celtics green!

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  • AC3

    Chuck, you suck, you’re the one stuck in the muck like a fool ass duck.

  • RedsLoveChild

    Forget “stuck”….as long as Ainge does the draft picking, we`re “f***ked”.

    • Curt Hays

      Hahahaha, but he’s good at trades, right? So he’s basically letting everyone else do the draft picking for him.