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Recap: Hawks pick-and-roll Celtics to death

John - Red's Army (@RedsArmy_John) December 18, 2015 Avery Bradley, Brad Stevens, David Lee, Evan Turner, Isaiah Thomas, Jae Crowder, Recaps 18 Comments

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This was not a great night. The Celtics completely abandoned their usual defensive principles and the Hawks tore them to shreds with pick and roll after pick and roll. Defensively the Hawks forced nearly two dozen Celtics turnovers that left the C’s scrambling for any semblance of an offense. Amazingly the Celtics were not only in this game, they held leads for most of it… but the Hawks pulled away late and went on to win 109-101

The first 3 minutes of this game was putrid… so bad that Mike Gorman quipped on air “have these guys met?” But after not scoring for the first 3 minutes, the Celtics whipped off 12 over the next 80 seconds. They scored 18 points in a quick 4 minute stretch but then went dormant again, not scoring again for another 4 minutes. Luckily for them, they whipped off a quick 5 points over the final minute of the quarter to take a 25-19 lead. This was an ugly quarter for Boston.. they turned it over EIGHT times and gave up 16 points in the paint.

The second quarter was… horrible. The Celtics shot less than 28% and they turned it over 5 more times. Still, they had a 10 point lead with 3:49 to go but the Hawks went on a 13-4 run to finish the quarter, which included a terribly defended Hawks pick-and-roll that led to a dunk, followed by Isaiah Thomas picking up his 3rd foul on a charge at half court. Amazingly, the Celtics still led by one at the half.

The same story continued in the third… the teams went back and forth with Thomas and Jae Crowder carrying the entire offense and the Hawks pick-and-rolling the Celtics to death. Crowder went nuts in the 3rd, scoring 15 points to carry the Celtics. The Celtics scored 30 in the quarter, but only Crowder, Thomas, and Sullinger scored.

The fourth had its high points for the Celtics. RJ Hunter hit a couple of 3’s to give the Celtics a 5 point lead. Evan Turner hit a 15 footer to make it 90-84 Boston with 5:24 left. And then it all went to absolute shit. Basically it was pick and roll after pick and roll after pick and roll… and a 25-11 run to finish the game ended it and handed the Celtics a 3-game losing streak.

The Green

Jae Crowder had a career-high 24 points, 15 of which I already mentioned came in the 3rd.

Isaiah Thomas could not be stopped… 29 points on 6-12 shooting and 14-15 free throws. Those are James Harden numbers.

RJ Hunter hit a couple of nice 3’s and he continues to grab rebounds out there. He didn’t play a lot, but I really think he’s going to grow into a pretty good player.

The Gross

What on earth has happened to Avery Bradley? He’s had 2 straight crappy games after people started trying to make an All Star case for him. 4 points tonight on 2-8 shooting and his defense was ok at best.

I swear to God… David Lee and Evan Turner are plotting to kill me with their play on the floor. If it’s not one, it’s the other.. and when they’re both playing poorly… Lee was 3-11 for 6 points. Turner was 3-8 for 8 points. I just can’t deal with these guys. I can’t

Kelly Olynyk can be so good if he wants to. Like really, I see it. I’m not making shit up… I swear I can see it. But maybe he’s just the next Jeff Green… a guy who makes just enough tantalizing plays to keep you hooked, but really isn’t ever going to be more than what he is. I scream at him multiple times a game to shoot the damn ball… but it just doesn’t look like he wants to be that aggressive type of offensive player sometimes.

I wrote these words earlier today: 

By the way, let’s not forget about Dennis Schroder, who isn’t necessarily a make-or-break guy if he’s off, but can be a huge help to them if he’s on. Don’t let him be a difference maker off the bench.

All he did was lead the Hawks with 22 points in 28 minutes off the bench, while adding 5 assists and 4 steals. A notoriously bad shooter shot 53% from the floor, 50% from 3, and 100% from the line. Nice job, Celtics.

Brad Stevens needs to take some heat for the way the Celtics played tonight, right? They changed how they guarded the pick and roll and it was an abject failure. What happened to all ice defense and forcing guys to the sidelines? I know you can maybe pick-and-pop your way out that but that has to be a better option than how it went tonight. The Hawks had 68 points in the paint. SIXTY EIGHT POINTS IN THE PAINT!!!!! That’s an insane number.

The Greenlights

At least this happened…

Hunter for 3:

The Grid

  • Points in the paint: Atlanta-68 Boston-36
  • Second chance points: Atlanta-16 Boston-10
  • Rebounds: Atlanta-42 Boston 43
  • Turnovers: Atlanta 13 Boston-22

The Celtics needed to keep Atlanta under 100 points, and they didn’t. They gave up 67 second half points, and 38 in the 4th quarter alone.

I also said in the preview:

No second-chance points tonight. That’s going to be a killer.

And the Celtics got outscored there too.

This was another sloppy game, and the Celtics have gone from the darlings of the NBA to the “I can’t believe I believed in those guys” team. This isn’t the first stretch they’ve had like this, and I’m sure they have a return to glory coming soon, but this is some pretty bad basketball right now, and they’ve got make some changes. This is on everyone from the coach on down to Tyler Zell… wait no, he’s probably the only guy this isn’t on. He needs to play to take some responsibility.

C’mon Brad.. give Zeller Lee’s minutes so we can all move on here.

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  • eddysamson

    Don’t forget when Zeller did play the other night he was pretty much the only one doing anything, or at least in the 2nd half.

  • forever_green

    Emotional recap…but a good one.

  • forever_green

    Off Topic, why the heck did Pierce go to the Clippers?? So he could play 8 minutes against the Spurs & lose⁉ “That can’t be why they brought him there”
    He’s only averaging like 15 minutes a game and can’t get in a rhythm which triggers a downpour of hate from Clips fans with disrespectful comments.

    • MJ

      It might just be that he’s cooked.

    • RedsLoveChild

      It`s a young man`s game……Paul Pierce is 38

      The only player Pierce`s age or older that`s getting more minutes is Duncan.

      • forever_green

        Paul is 38 but he didn’t show signs he was done last season. How effective would Duncan be if he only got 8 minutes? If Kobe can handle like 30 minutes a game at 37, I’m sure Paul can handle 20 minutes. That organization doesn’t deserve him & I’m sure they’ll be loving him when Paul’s winning games for them in the playoffs.

        • RedsLoveChild

          Kobe might be playing 30 MPG, but he`s not “handling” those 30 minutes very well.
          Kobe can no longer compete, can`t defend, he`s embarrassing himself {33 FG%}, his old creaky legs are betraying him. Even Jerry West said it`s “painful” to watch Kobe play now. He`s only playing because he`s on a “farewell tour”, and LA is not a contending team.

          I`m no Doc fan but, he is trying to win, and there`s very little a 38 year old has to offer a team that`s sees itself as a contender. He knows better than anyone what Pierce can and cannot give him.

          • forever_green

            Why bring him there then? I think Pierce knows better than anyone what he can and can’t do. If this was it, then I’m sure Paul would of retired. Just saying.

          • RedsLoveChild

            I hear ya, but….very very seldom is there any market at all for a 38 year old free agent. It`s virtually unheard of. Make no mistake, Pierce was not being flooded with offers.

            Instead, Pierce got an attractive deal. He got to go “home”…play for one of the better NBA teams….and pocket about $11M.
            Retirement can wait…..whatever Pierce`s next career will be starting at age 41, it definitely will not be paying him that kind of money.

          • forever_green

            Really, I think he calls it quits after this season. Just thought he’d have a bigger role, one like he had with the Wizards.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Yep…a “buy-out” is very likely, cannot see PP still playing in 2018 when contract expires.

            I`m sure Larry regrets not retiring 2-3 years earlier…between the back/foot problems, and the team no longer being a legitimate contender, it was not pleasurable for Bird or his fans.

          • forever_green

            Just have to say..Doc sucks as a coach this year..lol..seriously he’s been terrible.

            Part of his problem is he always has to be buddy buddy with his players.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Not surprised. ….Rivers` teams tend not to over-achieve.

            When Doc`s Boston teams had very little talent they won very little {24 wins in `07}…when they had tons of talent they won big {`08 champs}…when their talent fell to average due to age/injuries their win total was average {41 in `13}.

    • art

      I’m asking the same question. I can see maybe a 20-25 minute minimum to keep him fresh. But 8 minutes? Way to go Doc! PP was an impact player with the Wizards and hard to understand why he would want to go to the Clippers to sit on the bench. And it’s not like the Clippers are that good. They need PP’s help.

      • forever_green

        Thank you Art, This is exactly how I feel. 20-25 minutes is perfect, instead Doc is sinking that team playing L. Stevenson & others over him. Paul carried the Wizards with clutch play last season & now they stink without him.

  • Jason Benn

    Pierce will get heavy minutes in the playoffs

    • forever_green

      Maybe this is the case & that’s the deal they have. IDK

    • art

      if so, going from 8-15 minutes to heavy minutes is not proper preparation. He won’t be the same PP we all know.