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Your Morning Dump… Where Corey Brewer was among the first calls Boston made

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

[insert fireworks joke here]

Miami Heat v Houston Rockets I bet if Wyc Grouseback could take back anything he’s said over the years, it’s that goddam fireworks line. That’s going to keep haunting him until the Celtics make a big splash somehow.

And despite Ainge’s assertion that that’s what the Celtics would try to do, their first reported call wasn’t necessarily big and splashy.

In Corey Brewer, the Celtics are showing that they’re more inclined to pursue a second and third tier free agent plan. Brewer is a nice piece that would probably come at a nice value. He’s still 29 years-old, but he’s a solid player who can play multiple positions, defend, and play hard.He’s a great piece off the bench and would definitely help the Celtics get better.

It’s just… he’s… y’know… Corey Brewer. He feels like a guy we can sign in three weeks rather than the name that comes up when I search through Woj’s Twitter timeline for what happened as I dozed off with my face on the keyboard at 12:02 am (that scrolling Twitter feed is quite hypnotic). To be fair, the Celtics aren’t sitting idly by and watching big-name free agents just sign wherever. No big names have changed teams yet, and the Celtics are patiently waiting for at least one big name to grant them an audience. 

That seems to be a Lakers or Cavs thing, so I’m betting the Celtics are going to be waiting for that word for a long time.

As far as other potential targets…

Greg Monroe met with the Knicks and Bucks. This follows the Bucks locking up Khris Middleton for 5-years, $70 million. Watch out for them this coming season if they get Monroe, a couple of other supporting pieces, plus Parker back healthy and the Greek Freak one year better. The Bucks are making moves.

Another thing to watch:

So the Nets aren’t completely blowing it up, which sucks for Boston because we’re hoping they go completely into the tank and give us a chance at a top 5 pick over the next three years.

Related links: CSNNE: Mannix: Johnson, Green, & Lopez on Celtics radar  |  Source: Celtics not out of running for Monroe  |  ESPNBoston: Ainge: Free agents will come to Boston  

And there’s one other agreement that affects us….

Page 2: Does Aminu’s deal affect Jae Crowder’s offer?

Al-Farouq Aminu has agreed to a four-year, $30 million contract with the Portland Trail Blazers, league sources told Yahoo Sports. Aminu, 24, averaged 5.6 points and 4.6 rebounds in 74 games for the Dallas Mavericks last season. Blazers general manager Neil Olshey was GM of the Los Angeles Clippers when they made Aminu the eighth overall pick of the 2010 NBA draft. Aminu also played with New Orleans for three seasons

Yahoo! Sports

the forward’s contract might have established a market for Celtics restricted free agent Jae Crowder. The two versatile defenders aren’t identical players, but they’re close enough this deal could be similar to what Crowder receives. The Celtics will have the opportunity to match any offer he gets, and, for what it’s worth, have consistently labeled him a part of their future. If his contract ends up around the same as Aminu’s, it would feel like fair value.

MassLive

Four years at an average of just more than $7 million per year is a lot, but it’s also the high-end of what I’d be willing to pay Crowder. It’s a good thing the salary cap is probably going to be a couple of million dollars higher than expected.

I don’t know that Crowder gets THAT much, but it won’t be that far off. If the Celtics announced a 4-year, $2o-something million deal, I’d be happy with that. We’d be talking about a contract that begins in the low $6 million range with raises over the next few years that become a lot easier to deal with as the cap blows up.

If Ainge can keep that first year of Crowder’s deal somewhere around there, it’d be a great signing for an important role player.

And Finally…

Let’s play “look who current Celtics just followed on Twitter OMG this must mean something right?” (that’s a working title)

Well, that IS interesting. The fact that Thomas is continuing his Twitter recruiting for the Celtics is a fun thing to follow.  If that’s what it takes to get this guy, then that’s what it takes.

A couple of other free agency notes:

Not that we expected anything less from those teams, but there it is.

The rest of the links:

Yahoo: Pacers, Monta Ellis, closing in on 3-year deal   |  Globe: Summer jobs await Celtics draft picks  | What are Celtics options when free agency begins?  |  Herald: Ainge couldn’t wait for Rozier  |  Hunter finds his way to Celtics  |  Ainge readies patient approach  |  CSNNE: Mannix: This could be a rough week for Celtics  | ESPN Boston: Celtics introduce rookies to history

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  • SNG

    Harris and RoLo is what we need

    • Richard Jensen

      Give Stevens that and lineup stability, and you’ve got 50+ wins.

      • Curt Hays

        Who all do we have to keep in that lineup to make it happen?

        IT4, ET, Jae, Smart, idk idk idk

        • bill_nair

          5 guard lineups are a guaranteed 50 wins.

          • Curt Hays

            Harris and Sideshow Bob aren’t guards.

          • bill_nair

            They’re also not members of the Cs yet so i’m still pulling for an all guard starting line up. Dont crush my dreams Curt!

          • Curt Hays

            My bad, my bad. I forgot you were in full agreement with Danny this year.

        • Richard Jensen

          If you figure you’re looking at adding five (Rozier, Mickey, Hunter, Lopez, Harris), you’ve got to drop five: Pressey, Bass, Jerebko, Datome, Babb. That’s one heck of a ten-man rotation, IMO.

          • Curt Hays

            I can’t get past the opinion that we need to retain Jerebko. I think he’s right there with Jae Crowder…just in shorter bursts.

          • bill_nair

            I think its his ability to hit the 3 why people want to keep him but im of the same opinion. I prefer Jae but id be happy retaining either.

          • Curt Hays

            I’d prefer Jae first, but my preference is both of them

          • bill_nair

            Yup I want Jae back and starting. I liked Jonas but felt like he was just passing time til he was gone. I never really got to enjoy him in green. I wish we could move Turner and bring back him and Jae and let them hold down the 3.

  • Adam Stark

    Pretty sure celtics won’t sign anyone and we will have a worst team than last year, and miss the playoffs.

    • Fitzy

      year 2 of rebuild. It’s fine.

      • bill_nair

        If only more people could read this comment. Year 2 of a 5 year rebuild, its gonna take time and patience (like not following the Knicks strategy of spending money on average FA every time they have money).

    • art

      Better chance of obtaining that franchise player as a lottery team. Blown chance this year.

    • KGino

      Pretty sure that’s a silly comment considering we played well over .500 ball since the IT trade

      • Curt Hays

        This why you my homie.

  • Astarot

    Guess Carroll is not on the market anymore https://instagram.com/p/4mXm3qmVAZ/
    “demarrecarroll1#WeTheNorth I will be playing for Toronto Raptors next year!!!! I’m Blessed for this Opportunity! #WeTheNorth”

    Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA

    DeMarre Carroll has agreed to a four year, $60M deal with Toronto, league source tells Yahoo.

  • eddysamson

    Anyone else just really pissed at all these needy NBA players acting like Boston is out in Alaska coached by Hitler? We’re not even being considered…

    • forever_green

      No love for the Green team on the east side? Up and coming coach with best fans in the world! F’em!

      • eddysamson

        Yeah F them all, we’ll develop our talent like the Warriors and win in 2-3 years.

    • bill_nair

      We’re a half rebuilding team who just got swept in the first round. I dont know why its so shocking FA aren’t that interested in us (especially when NY and LA are in hot pursuit the first couple days of FA).

      • eddysamson

        You can spin it any way you want. We’re a hot young team coming off the 2nd best record in the East post all-star break and would have made the 2nd round of the playoffs against like 5 other teams in the Eastern playoffs if we didn’t play the Cavs. And all that is with who? Evan Turner…IT? Come on, these players should know if they add their talents to this mix it will be successful.

        • Curt Hays

          Eddy, @disqus_PxbpHGIskj:disqus is just having a rough day. Once Danny brings us some fireworks, he’ll be back to normal!

          • bill_nair

            Im having a wonderful day. Hit at the casino last night. Happy as can be. Tempering my expectations cause I have to sit on this site and listen to you guys cry when things don’t go as planned.

          • Curt Hays

            Hahaha, alright alright. But you know good and well you’re a fanatic like the rest of us. You’re just pretending otherwise.

          • bill_nair

            Im a die hard. Thats the only reason ill spend my time talking with you guys trying to convince you to temper your expectations though its not right for me to tell you guys how to be fans. I know that, but the die hard Celtic in me just wants to see us happy throughout the year not constantly crying.

            Sort of like wishing for world peace but only in Celtics nation. Apologies if I come across snarky, not the case. I do enjoy discussing ball with everyone on this site. Going from Celticsblog to here, its night and day. I enjoy the civility here at RA.

          • Curt Hays

            It’s all good. I’m just trying to have some fun.

        • bill_nair

          Ah your right. 50 wins here we come.

  • Frank Aziza

    Once again. …zzz

    • Mike Spoon

      Hahaha right. I’m trying to study, but just keep refreshing ESPN instead. SOMETHING PLEASE HAPPEN

  • Brandon

    Let me get this straight: LaMarcus doesn’t even look at Boston. Kwahi Leonard, Marc Gasol, and Draymond Green are probably staying put. If Kevin Love leaves CLE, he’ll go to the Lakers. If DeAndre Jordan leaves the Clippers, he’ll just change jerseys to the Lakers. Greg Monroe meets with three other teams before us and we’ll lose to NYK anyway. We’ll probably lose out to another team in the Harris “sweepstakes.” Khris Middleton stays put.

    So now we’re looking at Kosta Koufus, Robin Lopez, and Corey Brewer?! This is our free agency?

    We failed to trade up in the draft (it was a failure, don’t sugar coat it), and they are losing a free agency battle to other cities. I can understand Los Angeles and New York. But Milwaukee and Charlotte are being more active than we are. Do we just give up?

    I’m still trying to figure out why Boston isn’t even looked at in free agency. True, once players come here, they don’t want to leave. Paul Pierce can sell Boston, but he’ll probably want them in Washington with him (assuming he re-sings). And you have to respect that. You want the team you’re on to win. But Bob Ryan had it right. He said that Boston is an “old, cold city” where the banners and tradition mean absolutely nothing. How do you sell 17 championship banners to youngsters who weren’t even born before the 16 were won? I’m not sure.

    And you have to sell the nightlife (non-existent), the historic significance of Boston (they don’t care), and the money (New York and Los Angeles has more).

    We’ve been told that Brad Stevens is a great coach and we have great management so free agents will pay attention. But the Lakers are in the front-running for DeAndre Jordan (assuming he doesn’t go back to the Clippers), Kevin Love (assuming he’s done with Cleveland) and is even preparing a max-deal for LaMarcus Aldridge (who’ll probably go to SAS that actually has a current winning tradition).

    On top of that, with our 16th pick, we drafted Marcus Smart 2.0. I love defense and it wins championships, but you’re gonna need offense as well. If you can’t score, you can’t win against a team that has an established offensive threat. We can’t beat the Cavs, Warriors, Spurs, Grizzlies, etc. We’re better than a lot of the other teams in the East, but we need rim protection and scoring. IT isn’t enough. AB isn’t enough and Sully is in his last chance to prove he can be a permanent stay.

    On a related side note: What if this is part of a bigger plan? What if Danny Ainge is really an evil genius? What if he didn’t want in the 2015 FA sweepstakes at all? What if he’s just biding his time and waiting for … Kevin Durant. Next year, Gerald Wallace comes off the books. As well as Sullinger. Here’s my feeling. If I were Danny Ainge and I couldn’t get a top tier free agent, I would try to sign Lopez and leave it at that. Develop the youngsters and talk IT into being a Manu Ginobolili for us. Next year, get Wes Matthews and then go after KD with fury.

    That’s my dream anyway. It’s silly, but I remember back in 2007 when the talk of Kevin Garnett of being traded and the Boston was a possible landing spot. Of course, I said “Yeah, that’ll be the day.”

  • Brandon

    Let me get this straight: LaMarcus doesn’t even look at Boston. Kwahi Leonard, Marc Gasol, and Draymond Green are probably staying put. If Kevin Love leaves CLE, he’ll go to the Lakers. If DeAndre Jordan leaves the Clippers, he’ll just change jerseys to the Lakers. Greg Monroe meets with three other teams before us and we’ll lose to NYK anyway. We’ll probably lose out to another team in the Harris “sweepstakes.” Khris Middleton stays put.

    So now we’re looking at Kosta Koufus, Robin Lopez, and Corey Brewer?! This is our free agency?

    We failed to trade up in the draft (it was a failure, don’t sugar coat it), and they are losing a free agency battle to other cities. I can understand Los Angeles and New York. But Milwaukee and Charlotte are being more active than we are. Do we just give up?

    I’m still trying to figure out why Boston isn’t even looked at in free agency. True, once players come here, they don’t want to leave. Paul Pierce can sell Boston, but he’ll probably want them in Washington with him (assuming he re-sings). And you have to respect that. You want the team you’re on to win. But Bob Ryan had it right. He said that Boston is an “old, cold city” where the banners and tradition mean absolutely nothing. How do you sell 17 championship banners to youngsters who weren’t even born before the 16 were won? I’m not sure.

    And you have to sell the nightlife (non-existent), the historic significance of Boston (they don’t care), and the money (New York and Los Angeles has more).

    We’ve been told that Brad Stevens is a great coach and we have great management so free agents will pay attention. But the Lakers are in the front-running for DeAndre Jordan (assuming he doesn’t go back to the Clippers), Kevin Love (assuming he’s done with Cleveland) and is even preparing a max-deal for LaMarcus Aldridge (who’ll probably go to SAS that actually has a current winning tradition). And the Lakers have a boob of an owner (Jim Buss) and a notoriously bad coach (Byron Scott). And the Knicks. Same thing. Boob owner (Jim Dolan), and an unproven coach (Derek Fisher). But the Knicks have Phil Jackson as team president, Carmelo Anthony (he’s more of sell than we have), and plays in Manhattan.

    On top of that, with our 16th pick, we drafted Marcus Smart 2.0. I love defense and it wins championships, but you’re gonna need offense as well. If you can’t score, you can’t win against a team that has an established offensive threat. We can’t beat the Cavs, Warriors, Spurs, Grizzlies, etc. We’re better than a lot of the other teams in the East, but we need rim protection and scoring. IT isn’t enough. AB isn’t enough and Sully is in his last chance to prove he can be a permanent stay.

    On a related side note: What if this is part of a bigger plan. What if Danny Ainge is really an evil genius? What if he didn’t want in the 2015 FA sweepstakes at all? What if he’s just biding his time and waiting for … Kevin Durant. Next year, Gerald Wallace comes off the books. As well as Sullinger. Here’s my feeling. If I were Danny Ainge and I couldn’t get a top tier free agent, I would try to sign Lopez and leave it at that. Develop the youngsters and talk IT into being a Manu Ginobolili for us. Next year, get Wes Matthews and then go after KD with fury.

    That’s my dream anyway. It’s silly, but I remembered back in 2007 when the talk of Kevin Garnett of being traded and the Celtics was a possible landing spot. Of course, I said “Yeah, that’ll be the day.”

  • bill_nair

    Lol so we’re still determining where people are going by who they follow on twitter? AFTER the whole Sully to Charlotte fiasco? People cant be this damn stupid.

    • Curt Hays

      Dude, he clearly said it was just fun to watch. If I was the Celtics Twitter page manager, I’d probably follow Kevin Love immediately just for the publicity.

      • bill_nair

        Wasn’t a shot at John. On every other Cs sites and twitter, there’s a firm belief this means Tobias is all but a done deal. Which you would think after what happened last week wouldnt be the case but twitter>facts.

        • Curt Hays

          Oh wow, I didn’t see that. I get the feeling that this blog is significantly more professional than the other ones.

          • bill_nair

            I think its more people occupying the other sites but for my money its the best Cs site out there without a doubt.

  • Astarot

    Unless someone is making fool of all of us that’s it : http://www.theplayerstribune.com/kevin-love-cavaliers-unfinished-business/

    • eddysamson

      Nah that’s 100% legit

      • Astarot

        Thought so. Not that I thought Cs had great chance to get him but you never know once the player hit the market and given the troubles between him and Lebron. Guess he’s looking for big money considering health issues and the chance for a title.

    • bill_nair

      Tons of traffic, did you read the article? Did it mention length of his deal?

      • Astarot

        No Love is only saying that he has an unfinished business with Cavs and that they are all on the same page with the team.

  • Astarot

    Damn Woj confirms Amir Johnson singed with Celtics what the hell?! That’s not even third tier free agent. Oh Ainge and his FA period